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Hey did anyone else find it odd, that pride showed a pretty long clip about saving energy for the environment by turning off the AC for a little while. Just another reason why japanese fans are smarter than american fans. Go Japanese Environmentalists! They support MMA!

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"I would quit doing the commentary in a heartbeat if they would bring back Jim Brown. Anyone who knows the UFC knows the early commentary was done by Jim Brown, a crazy ex football player from the 60's. He had no martial arts experience whatsoever, but he was 150-0 in bareknuckle domestic squabbles."
-Joe Rogan

The more you cry, the less I care.

Check out the PPV, really odd segment immediately following the fights.

that's a dig at american audiences for president bush abandoning the kyoto protocol that pres clinton worked for. i found that extremely odd yet entertaining. also, not a bad idea. we really do need to take better care of the environment.

just one of many bs legislations that clinton worked for that bush has done the right thing by abandoning

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Jacob Whitfield
Triangle Jiu-Jitsu Academy
Goldsboro, NC
www.trianglejj.com
www.myspace.com/trianglejiujitsuacademy

Amen, Whit.

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"If at first you don't succeed, tap out and ask for a rematch!" - Kevbo, 2004

Wher have tou been Whit?

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Yeah, Whit, where were tou?

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"If at first you don't succeed, tap out and ask for a rematch!" - Kevbo, 2004

aflkjdskljf;lsjafjkdljfklds afkk toui?

I don't read Portugese very well.

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"If at first you don't succeed, tap out and ask for a rematch!" - Kevbo, 2004

and bas doesnt speak brazilian... but he heard them say pass the guard

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Jacob Whitfield
Triangle Jiu-Jitsu Academy
Goldsboro, NC
www.trianglejj.com
www.myspace.com/trianglejiujitsuacademy

damn i thought it was pig latin

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CARRY ON



"The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his"

-Patton

Your grandchildren will thank you for the uninhabitable hellhole. At least your shareholders saw some profit.

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Is it filled with something that you can rape with an octopus?

The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame

"They have an unshakeable faith in what has, unfortunately, become one of the central credos of the environmental movement: humans burn fossil fuels, which release increased levels of carbon dioxide - the principal so-called greenhouse gas - into the atmosphere, causing the atmosphere to heat up. They say this is global warming: I say this is poppycock."

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Believe in yourself. Believe in your own potential for greatness. Believe that you can change the world. It is something that is within each of us"
--Evan Tanner 1971-2008
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I am in complete agreement with Yuushi.

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"If at first you don't succeed, tap out and ask for a rematch!" - Kevbo, 2004

I have to say this is where me and Yuushi part ways.

I think that Bush has taken a big old steaming shit on the last 20 years of environmental policies, in the name of big business.

Listen past the Orwellian Newspeak that he keeps spewing.

Ninja is right
"Your grandchildren will thank you for the uninhabitable hellhole. At least your shareholders saw some profit."

Hey I thank GOD he's a LAME DUCK!

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

The truth about Global warming, is that there are too many people...

Seriously, think about it. More people equals more carbon dioxide.

We need to get rid of all the morons that hate MMA, they are just oxygen sinks.

Problem is, since the environmental movement are the loudest voice out there, no one is hearing the truth anymore when it comes to these issues.

Hell, few remember that the environmentalists 30+ years ago were pounding the pavement screaming that "global-cooling" was upon us, saying that the pollution in the air wasn't allowing the sun's rays to get through the atmosphere to warm the planet.

Now the litany has changed to global-warming, saying that pollution is causing the "Greenhouse Effect." Failing to mention that the "Greenhouse Effect" is NOT a man-made phenomena, but a natural phenomena (which makes our planet inhabitable in the first place--otherwise it would be either too cold or too hot) caused primarily by water vapor (70% contributor to the "Greenhouse Effect"--not much we can do about that since the planet is 3/4 water.) While the big bad gas that the evironmentalists wail about, CO₂, is argued back and forth as to how much it contributes to the effect (I've heard it contributes as little as 5% up to 25% depending on who you ask.)

Even the founder of the major environmental group Greenpeace, Dr. Patrick Moore, left the group because they went loony and far too extreme on him. He goes onto say, since he has "grown up", about climate change and the loony views:

"The forests of North America cover about the same area they did a hundred years ago. Yet 75 percent of the public think they are disappearing. The reason there is so much forest today is that we use so much wood - and wood is renewable. Wood is made by renewable solar energy in a factory called The Forest...So the campaign against using wood is logically inconsistent with the campaign to prevent climate change and CO2 emissions. People have been duped into thinking that when you go to a lumber yard and buy lumber, you're causing the forest to be lost, when, in fact, you're sending a signal into the market to plant more trees and produce more wood...Most people think that if you take enough people in lab coats and throw enough money at them, then you can find the answer to any question. Of course that isn't true. Science actually has its absolute limit...there are so many variables that trigger climate change - other than CO2 - that it is impossible to sort out the root cause."

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Believe in yourself. Believe in your own potential for greatness. Believe that you can change the world. It is something that is within each of us"
--Evan Tanner 1971-2008
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LMAO @ Tuffy.

Yuush, I'm glad we're on the same side politically. It must suck for the Bush-bashers to be schooled whenever they bring up something negative.

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"If at first you don't succeed, tap out and ask for a rematch!" - Kevbo, 2004

No actually schooling would imply that there was some mailce behind what either of us was saying.

Am I anti Bush, no because that would imply that I hate him as a person.

Do I think he's the worst president since LBJ?
Most definitely.

At no time did I bring up anything about the greenhouse effect, or global warming.
Both of which could be strongly argued in either direction.
Kind of like religion.

My issues are with pollution,and the blatant disregard for the world in which we live.

I drive a ULEV vehicle for that reason.
If I could afford a 40,000.00 Hybrid SUV (SULEV) for my family I would get one. But for now I do my part how I can.
My wife and I share a car I ride a motorcycle etc.

Do I detest all of the super sized SUV's on the road, no, but I wish the people driving them had a fucking clue what their status symbols actually do to the planet.

I am an avid outdoor person, I dig camping and fishing.
When we have to restrict our intake of fish and what types of edible fish we can keep due to excessively high levels of mercury I think that is just sad.

Couple that with the fact that we have a president in office that wants to allow DOUBLE the amount of mercury that industry can legally dump into our waterways and oceans, it is an environmental nightmare waiting for a place to happen.

Just look at your history books with what happened to Japan after WW2 when their children were being born with horrible birth defects, and their children were being poisoned because of the mercury levels in the fish caught in their waterways. They ingested the fish, the Mercury and other heavy metals built up in their system, and they sustained brain damage and slow deaths because of it.

Yuushi, I totally remember when I was a kid the people thinking we were headed for a global Ice Age.
I never agreed with them, it just didin't make any sense.

But as time goes by I think you'll agree with the advances in technology we have the potential to be a much more informed society.

One could easily liken the parable between the old belief of global cooling and the new belief of global warming
to the original belief that the world was flat and the now accepted fact that the world is not at all flat but a kind of sphere with the poles pushed in a bit.

"Anothing thing I love to point out to the enviro-pavement pounders is that it has been determined that the temperature on the planet Mars has increased dramatically over the years . . . but there are no SUV's or smokestacks on Mars spewing out "greenhouse gases", are there?"

I am not 100% sure how to respond to that. LOL

The atmosphere on Mars is far different than ours, ie comprised of far different elemental gasses.

But I agree that is an argument that could be used to counter global warming, IF the atmosphere was identical or even close to Earth's.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~soper/Mars/atmosphere.html

Interesting info.

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

I agree that global warming is total BS. I know two scientists, one a nuclear physicist and the other an astronomer, both whom don't believe in it. Now, they also happen to be batshit crazy and they hate Jews, Blacks, Arabs, and most Asians, but still, they know their science, and they don't believe in this global warming shit for a minute.

One of more than a few websties regarding the Bush limits on Mercury.

http://www.ewire.com/display.cfm/Wire_ID/1919

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

Informtation on the Japanese Mercury poisining incidents.

http://www1.umn.edu/ships/ethics/minamata.htm

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

Some more interesting facts from the EPA

http://www.epa.gov/mercury/reportover.htm

"The three paragraphs devoted to mercury levels in water are baseless conjecture until supported with scientific fact."

Tuffy, I wish I could visit the fantasy world you live in.
Must be a nice place.

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

Sorry for being a post whore too. LOL

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

LOL
You know Tuffy, you did make me smile on that.

G.W. Global warming. LOL

We might need to ask Yuushi on the topic of global warming on other planets since he brought up Mars. LOL

Honestly though, I just worry about what type of environment
my kids and my grandkids (no none of them I am not that old) will be left with.

I remember going to some really cool places to fish as a kid with my Dad.
most of those places are just gone, some because of pollution, some beacuse of over development.

Maybe it's just because I live in NJ.

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

"U.S. power plants contribute only about 1 percent of the mercury in the oceans" --Washington Post March 22, 2005

Only about 1%? Well, let's bankrupt the US economy so we can be poisoned by 99% of the rest of the mercury in the oceans from foreign sources we have no control over.

Causes of Mercury Toxicity:

•Causes of elemental mercury toxicity include barometers, batteries, bronzing, calibration instruments, chlor-alki production, dental amalgams, electroplating, fingerprinting products, fluorescent and mercury lamps, infrared detectors, the jewelry industry, manometers, neon lamps, paints, paper pulp production, photography, silver and gold production, semiconductor cells, and thermometers.

•The causes of inorganic mercury toxicity include antisyphilitic agents, acetaldehyde production, chemical laboratory work, cosmetics, disinfectants, explosives, embalming, fur hat processing, ink manufacturing, mercury vapor lamps, mirror silvering, the perfume industry, photography, spermicidal jellies, tattooing inks, taxidermy production, vinyl chloride production, and wood preservation.

•The causes of organic mercury toxicity include antiseptics, bactericidals, embalming agents, the farming industry, fungicides, germicidal agents, insecticidal products, laundry products, diaper products, paper manufacturing, pathology products, histology products, seed preservation, and wood preservatives.

•Another route of organic mercury exposure is thimerosal, an additive preservative used in vaccines to prevent bacterial contamination. The most commonly used vaccines that contain Thimerosal are for diphtheria-tetanus-whole cell pertussis (DTP), Haemophilus influenzae (HIB), and hepatitis B.

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Believe in yourself. Believe in your own potential for greatness. Believe that you can change the world. It is something that is within each of us"
--Evan Tanner 1971-2008
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Ok Yuushi,
I was going to let this one die on the vine, but I can't.

Site your sources.

Also when did I mention Power Plants.

I mentioned pollution.

Once again as you do quite often on this forum, you're reaching.

I suggested that we need to cut back on pollution of our waterways.

Nothing about Mars, or Powerplants, or bankrupting our economy.

All of which were your rebuttals to my argument of simply needing to cut back on pollution.

This is the last thing I am saying on this topic.

I'm sorry I couldn't let this one drop, but damn man, can't you even see what's right in front of your face.

Yuushi, you know how to reach me brother, I wish I knew how to reach you.

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Is not surprised in the least at the abject stupidity of the urban American.

Ummmm, I gave you the source for that 1% quote.

And here's the one for the causes of mercury toxicity:

http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic813.htm

And here's some (though not all) on the climate increase of Mars (no pollution on Mars causing the CO2 and H20 releases, mind you):

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/i/x/ixn111/climate.html

It wasn't "always like that" as you IMed me.

And you make it sound like none of this ever happened before this administration and only this administration can fix it.

Besides, I think terrorists are a much more pressing problem than mercury, don't you think (especially in light of what just happened in London)?

You can bring it up all you want, my friend, but I will always look at every bit of evidence before I will join the ranks of the enviro-nazis who are more about spreading socialism than saving the world. I believe the part of the founder of Greenpeace leaving the organization scratches the surface of that fact.

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Believe in yourself. Believe in your own potential for greatness. Believe that you can change the world. It is something that is within each of us"
--Evan Tanner 1971-2008
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